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Posted: 5 years ago

Oho meri prediction galat ho gayi 😆.

I've caught up with the episodes and I actually feel sorry for Kuhu. She is being battered both ends; from Jas and Meenu. It's so mean how they're preying on her and using her insecurities for their own gains. But as much as Kuhu dislikes Mishti she knew it was wrong to spike the coffee and remembers the time Kunal did the same (I don't think she backed out because she didn't want to be a hypocrite, I felt she simply used those lines to draw from her previous experience). She calm's herself down and puches those negative thoughts away. This was a good on her part.

This whole thing was unintentional and accepting it was an accident, was what Kuhu should do. We can only hope when Parul maasi is getting blamed she finally speaks up (I doubt it because the writers won't want to show the better side of Kuhu😒). I acutally kinda understand her predicament. Seeing everyones reaction, she's unable to openly admit what happened; she's terrified. As for lying to Kunal, I know I know she shouldn't have but I don't think even I can trust him let alone Kuhu.

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Before it completely slips my mind,

@nami: I wanted to disagree with your post about it being a second chance for Kuhu and how she should concentrate more on Kunal and her marriage. Kuhu had already 'proved', for lack of a better word, herself the '1st' time round. She was the perfect DIL and really stood by Kunal. I would say this is Kunal's 2nd chance. And we are yet to see what he does with it.

We may have all discussed this before but I'd like to mention it again (inte dino se zyada likha nahin na😆), it's only natural for Kuhu to be more attentive when Mishti's around because of their equation and her insecurities. Her relationship with Kunal is a difficult one 🤔.

Not to say Kuhu needs to stop making an effort and I agree we need her to work through her issues but considering the circumstances (incl. meenu) I don't think it unreasonable for her worries to be at the centre of things. I understand her, is what I'm trying to say.

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In todays episode, I loved the whole staging of the bit where one wanted to talk to the other. It was a great representation of this whole pill fiasco. What a mess!


Coming to Kunal, I stick to my conclusion that, for now, Kuhu and this relationship matters only when it's convenient for him. It's like, now he's got her, his job's done. 🤪


I was constucting this piece throughout the entre day in my head and it sounded sooooo much better in there. 😭

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Posted: 5 years ago

Pretend we haven't been watching the drama-filled epis. Just look at them...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9RZthGBA3a/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: PureDrivenSnow

Oho meri prediction galat ho gayi 😆.

I've caught up with the episodes and I actually feel sorry for Kuhu. She is being battered both ends; from Jas and Meenu. It's so mean how they're preying on her and using her insecurities for their own gains. But as much as Kuhu dislikes Mishti she knew it was wrong to spike the coffee and remembers the time Kunal did the same (I don't think she backed out because she didn't want to be a hypocrite, I felt she simply used those lines to draw from her previous experience). She calm's herself down and puches those negative thoughts away. This was a good on her part.

This whole thing was unintentional and accepting it was an accident, was what Kuhu should do. We can only hope when Parul maasi is getting blamed she finally speaks up (I doubt it because the writers won't want to show the better side of Kuhu😒). I acutally kinda understand her predicament. Seeing everyones reaction, she's unable to openly admit what happened; she's terrified. As for lying to Kunal, I know I know she shouldn't have but I don't think even I can trust him let alone Kuhu.

_ _ _

Before it completely slips my mind,

@nami: I wanted to disagree with your post about it being a second chance for Kuhu and how she should concentrate more on Kunal and her marriage. Kuhu had already 'proved', for lack of a better word, herself the '1st' time round. She was the perfect DIL and really stood by Kunal. I would say this is Kunal's 2nd chance. And we are yet to see what he does with it.

We may have all discussed this before but I'd like to mention it again (inte dino se zyada likha nahin na😆), it's only natural for Kuhu to be more attentive when Mishti's around because of their equation and her insecurities. Her relationship with Kunal is a difficult one 🤔.

Not to say Kuhu needs to stop making an effort and I agree we need her to work through her issues but considering the circumstances (incl. meenu) I don't think it unreasonable for her worries to be at the centre of things. I understand her, is what I'm trying to say.

_ _ _


In todays episode, I loved the whole staging of the bit where one wanted to talk to the other. It was a great representation of this whole pill fiasco. What a mess!


Coming to Kunal, I stick to my conclusion that, for now, Kuhu and this relationship matters only when it's convenient for him. It's like, now he's got her, his job's done. 🤪


I was constucting this piece throughout the entre day in my head and it sounded sooooo much better in there. 😭

Bold - 💯

I'll hold on to my 'hypocrite hypothesis' for now. I am hoping to be disproved in the next episode.

I do have another theory for her saying "Agar kisi ko coffee peeni hi thi to Mishti ne kyun nahi pi". She might've said that because if she would have put the pill in the coffee, it would have been meant for Mishti. Ab jab dal hi gayi thi to yaa to kisi ke mug me naa jaati otherwise Mishti because out of all the people in the RV house, she cares the least about Mishti.


The funny part in all this mess is that if Abir hadn't switched his cup with Kuhu, nobody would've been drugged. I feel agar mai kuhu ki jagah hoti to I would have fixated on that for some time among other things.🤪

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: PureDrivenSnow

Oho meri prediction galat ho gayi 😆.

I've caught up with the episodes and I actually feel sorry for Kuhu. She is being battered both ends; from Jas and Meenu. It's so mean how they're preying on her and using her insecurities for their own gains. But as much as Kuhu dislikes Mishti she knew it was wrong to spike the coffee and remembers the time Kunal did the same (I don't think she backed out because she didn't want to be a hypocrite, I felt she simply used those lines to draw from her previous experience). She calm's herself down and puches those negative thoughts away. This was a good on her part.

This whole thing was unintentional and accepting it was an accident, was what Kuhu should do. We can only hope when Parul maasi is getting blamed she finally speaks up (I doubt it because the writers won't want to show the better side of Kuhu😒). I acutally kinda understand her predicament. Seeing everyones reaction, she's unable to openly admit what happened; she's terrified. As for lying to Kunal, I know I know she shouldn't have but I don't think even I can trust him let alone Kuhu.

_ _ _

Before it completely slips my mind,

@nami: I wanted to disagree with your post about it being a second chance for Kuhu and how she should concentrate more on Kunal and her marriage. Kuhu had already 'proved', for lack of a better word, herself the '1st' time round. She was the perfect DIL and really stood by Kunal. I would say this is Kunal's 2nd chance. And we are yet to see what he does with it.

We may have all discussed this before but I'd like to mention it again (inte dino se zyada likha nahin na😆), it's only natural for Kuhu to be more attentive when Mishti's around because of their equation and her insecurities. Her relationship with Kunal is a difficult one 🤔.

Not to say Kuhu needs to stop making an effort and I agree we need her to work through her issues but considering the circumstances (incl. meenu) I don't think it unreasonable for her worries to be at the centre of things. I understand her, is what I'm trying to say.

_ _ _


In todays episode, I loved the whole staging of the bit where one wanted to talk to the other. It was a great representation of this whole pill fiasco. What a mess!


Coming to Kunal, I stick to my conclusion that, for now, Kuhu and this relationship matters only when it's convenient for him. It's like, now he's got her, his job's done. 🤪


I was constucting this piece throughout the entre day in my head and it sounded sooooo much better in there. 😭

Hey! Now that I think of it.. That's actually right. Its Kunal's second chance too. He's got to prove his worth to her. I have the same complains as you regarding Kunal. He married and then what? No talk about themselves except burning the divorce papers. He's now back to being comfortable where his family is complete. The reason I said its Kuhu's second chance is because she fought for getting married in the same mandap, etc. And she's not valuing it. Her insecurities are heightened so much that she's not seeing the minimal efforts Kunal is making to come close to her like the trip or the car drive, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I think.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: PureDrivenSnow

Pretend we haven't been watching the drama-filled epis. Just look at them...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9RZthGBA3a/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


Aww so pretty!! Please makers look at them Give them a nice story 🥺

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: PureDrivenSnow

Pretend we haven't been watching the drama-filled epis. Just look at them...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9RZthGBA3a/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


Hayeeee my cuties nazar na lage kisi ki!!! *utharofies nazar and puts kaala teeka*

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: nami2811

Hey! Now that I think of it.. That's actually right. Its Kunal's second chance too. He's got to prove his worth to her. I have the same complains as you regarding Kunal. He married and then what? No talk about themselves except burning the divorce papers. He's now back to being comfortable where his family is complete. The reason I said its Kuhu's second chance is because she fought for getting married in the same mandap, etc. And she's not valuing it. Her insecurities are heightened so much that she's not seeing the minimal efforts Kunal is making to come close to her like the trip or the car drive, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I think.


Ahh I see what you mean.

___

I was re watching some old scenes...these two were 🔥🔥! I know KuKu have moved on and now share a different relationship were they are more tender and careful with each other but somehow I want the old KuKu back. The chemistry even when they looked at each other...❤️.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: aquaHP

@Nikki: I take it back. They are trying to make Kuhu negative. Faayeda kya tha itni backstory and guilt trip dikhaane ka agar yahi karna tha inhe to. The problem with this track is that it's not making hate Kuhu but it's rather making me annoyed at the makers for ruining her character. Ye zyada ho gaya. Why couldn't they let her accept her mistake and apologize??


@Riya: What the hell was Abir saying today?? Someone make him sleep again. Just because he found out that Parul is his mother does not mean he has to start calling her Maa. Yes, he should have been polite and trusted her because she has been a part of the family for so long but we see Nidhi mistrusting Parul and she was supportive of Parul all this while. Kunal to pehle se hi trust nahi karta tha. Itni jaldi thode hi badal jaayega.

What I don't understand is Kunal not trusting Parul but trusting Kuhu enough to say ki uski koi galti nahi hai. I get that you're sorry for hurting Kuhu but you don't even know the girl properly. The dude who found out that the women he called his mother had been using him for her own motives for the longest time and then he goes on to trust Kuhu. Matlab makers ko thoda sense to hona chahiye na.


And Mishti, what the hell was that?? The whole episode, she was fine and then she comes along saying ki Kuhu didn't think about the drama it would cause when she slapped Kuhu and blamed her for the divorce on her wedding day. Second part is not your fault but you definitely deserved the slap for going through Kuhu's wardrobe on purpose, stealing the envelope, trying to read someone's private mail and then it was unintentional, but she hurt Varsha. Of all the people, she hurt Varsha.

If we see it separately, Mishti did not deserve the slap but if you see how the events unfolded, I get why she got slapped. I would have been totally okay if the slap today was just for what Kuhu said but what was the need for Mishti saying that line? It seemed like ki wo badla le rahi hai.

Okay! They made me dislike Kuhu!! There! I said it! Why couldn't she just keep mum instead of "aag me ghee dalna"? Oh Kuhu, shut up!! Where did your fear go now? Seriously!!!


Side note: Is Mishti ever going to tell Parul how she found out about Kunal being her son?? Is she ever going to tell her that she met her sister??


The only character sane today was Meenu. She was the only one who was in the game. Also, aaj ke stars were Kaushal, Ketu for worrying about Parul and Naanu for making that lover joke. Mazaak mazaak me asliyat khol gaye😆

Wow! Ye to maine poore episode pe rant likh diya😲

I just skimmed through the entire episode in 5 mins to check if there were any KuKu scenes. But yes as I predicted Kuhu did not say a word even when Parul was blamed. I expected this but I didn't expect her attitude when she was talking to Mishti. If she would have just said she didn't mean to do it and said sorry, I am sure that Mishti would have let it go for now. ( Although Mishti surely would have brought it up years and used that information to make Kuhu feel bad, but that is a whole new can of worms that I don't want to open 😆)

This was the problem that I have with writers. They are not really consistent in writing Kuhu's character. For the same issue, they make her say one thing in one episode and then something different in the next one. I feel like the writers put no effort in her character arc and they just give her lines that would create the maximum ruckus in that particular episode. For writers, Kuhu's character is a mere prop to make Mishti look like a victim and Meenu look like a master manipulator.

I have come to the conclusion that, Itv soap writers are not capable enough to do justice to a grey character or maybe they just don't have the liberty to write them as they like. They always end up whitewashing grey characters ( Like they did with Kunal) or end up making them completely negative. Since Kuhu is paired opposite whitewashed and boring Kunal, she will not be made completely negative but will be made extremely unlikeable. I just wonder if it is done deliberately not to take focus away from ML and FL as the romantic leads of the show. 😕

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

This is exactly what I mean by manipulative writing. If you are going to unfold the story as though Kuhu drugged the coffee on purpose, why not just have her do it? Same with Kunal -- the fact that he took the drink back from Nishant never came into the picture, so why bother giving him that tiny glimmer of hesitation?


Kuhu and Kunal mostly, but also characters like Jasmeet, Meenu, and Nishant are repeatedly used to make the leads look like victims and underdogs, when they are simply not. The reason they leave that moral wiggle room is so they can be easily "redeemed" and then betray the leads all over again and repeat the cycle. In a weird meta sense, it's like Kuhu and Kunal have to work as plot devices in the leads' relationship in order to earn their own little bits of story.


If they genuinely wanted to deal with Kuhu and Mishti's fraught relationship -- even with the usual extra leeway for Mishti -- they could have just shown Kuhu continuing her pettiness after the mandap. After Mishti excluded her from the pooja, have Kuhu undercut her and go straight to Abir. Abir is so used to taking Kuhu's ideas for these things, and doesn't believe Mishti capable of jealousy, so he wouldn't suspect that this would bother her at all. Show various instances of Kuhu using her existing leverage with the RVs to shut Mishti out. You still show Kuhu in a negative light, struggling with her flaws, but without making her mistakes life or death.


The fact that they immediately fell back on saazish says a lot about who this show is written for -- an audience who wants high-stakes, life or death scenarios on the daily and isn't much concerned with long-term development of characters. That they managed to sneak the characterisation in that they did for Kunal and Kuhu still surprises me!


Rant over... for now. Disclaimer: I haven't watched the episode and probably won't watch anything other than the Kuku scene. 😛


Bang on, Sam! I was thinking along the same lines here. Just like Kuhu, even when Kunal drugged Nishant, he did try to take the drink back (that was a pretty well thought out parallel, so I'll give the writers credit for that I guess). But this little detail just turned out to be a completely unnecessary red herring, and only served to make Kunal look a little less heartless when the truth finally came out.


The one thing that made me fall in love with YRHPK was its clear use of grey characterization from the very beginning. This is pretty rare in the ITV world, and you don't see many characters that aren't black or white in most shows. This also explains why the majority of the audience cannot digest such grey characters, because they're just not used to seeing it. In a thirst for repeated, meaningless cliffhangers and pleasing such an audience, the writers have put clear and detailed character development on the back burner. We had seen a lot of development in Kuhu and Kunal initially, because the plot line was planned previously so the writers had obviously put way more thought into it. But as the writers started writing simultaneously with the show running, it went downhill pretty fast. And this is true for the majority of ITV shows.


Ah, I miss the old days when the show first started airing. Those were honestly the golden episodes.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

This is exactly what I mean by manipulative writing. If you are going to unfold the story as though Kuhu drugged the coffee on purpose, why not just have her do it? Same with Kunal -- the fact that he took the drink back from Nishant never came into the picture, so why bother giving him that tiny glimmer of hesitation?


Kuhu and Kunal mostly, but also characters like Jasmeet, Meenu, and Nishant are repeatedly used to make the leads look like victims and underdogs, when they are simply not. The reason they leave that moral wiggle room is so they can be easily "redeemed" and then betray the leads all over again and repeat the cycle. In a weird meta sense, it's like Kuhu and Kunal have to work as plot devices in the leads' relationship in order to earn their own little bits of story.


If they genuinely wanted to deal with Kuhu and Mishti's fraught relationship -- even with the usual extra leeway for Mishti -- they could have just shown Kuhu continuing her pettiness after the mandap. After Mishti excluded her from the pooja, have Kuhu undercut her and go straight to Abir. Abir is so used to taking Kuhu's ideas for these things, and doesn't believe Mishti capable of jealousy, so he wouldn't suspect that this would bother her at all. Show various instances of Kuhu using her existing leverage with the RVs to shut Mishti out. You still show Kuhu in a negative light, struggling with her flaws, but without making her mistakes life or death.


The fact that they immediately fell back on saazish says a lot about who this show is written for -- an audience who wants high-stakes, life or death scenarios on the daily and isn't much concerned with long-term development of characters. That they managed to sneak the characterisation in that they did for Kunal and Kuhu still surprises me!


Rant over... for now. Disclaimer: I haven't watched the episode and probably won't watch anything other than the Kuku scene. 😛

@bold: That is exactly what I wrote in response to Pihu's post. The supporting characters are props that are used to make leads look better. Like you said, Kunal and Kuhu are just used as devices so that the leads can be shown struggling and getting over all the hurdles and still capable of being together.


@Red: I been saying the same thing in my posts in the past few days. It is written for the audience who are not much concerned about the character development but the drama that those character are capable of creating. Until and unless these particular groups of audience rejects these regressive content, we will continue to see the slightly modified versions of Abir, Mishti, Meenu, Jas, Maami in future tv shows as well.


@blue : I believe that is done by the junior writer who gets to write 2 minutes KuKu scenes and gives his all to make the best our of this small opportunity. I completely believe your theory about the junior writer writing KuKu scenes. 😆

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