Trust Issues...Both Raman and Ishita Have!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good morning.

After the accident mischief of Raman, Ishita's outburst made many say that only Ishita has trust issues. Raman never ever mistrusted her. I guess, like me many had forgotten the trust issues of Raman two and half months back. And, it was during a time when IshRa were already good friends and were stepping towards love. So, saying that their relationship was nothing that time won't work here.

My intention of this post is not to defend or criticize Ishita or Raman, but to show that they are a couple who can do same mistakes separately, but they do. And, this post is about their trust issues.

First of all...for me trust is not only believing that she/he loves me, trust is believing she/he is good, she/he can/can't do this, she/he understands me, she/he needs me..and some more.
Both Ishita and Raman failed in some of these trust factors in different times and situations.



Raman

Accident track : During accident track of Amma, he doubted on Ishita that she won't agree with him if she knew about Adi did the accident. He wanted to say at first, but Shagun stopped him. Shagun misled him. But, is that only Shagun told...nothing else? Why dint he listen to his hearts? Cos, in his heart, there was a small doubt that if Ishita knows about Adi, will she support him or not!! That was Raman's first trust issue.
Then, he doubted her of stealing the proof for Shagun's innocence. He himself knew that in their room, from his mom to Ruhi, Neelu, Romi, Simmi anyone comes frankly and freely. He dint give Ishita a benefit of doubt thinking that Ruhi might have taken that while playing, or Neelu might have dropped that in garbage while cleaning furniture. Only doubt he had in his mind that Ishita stole the photo. Another trust issue from him. Again, Shagun was the one to mislead him.
Mani : Lolz...I find it funny actually. I said it from that day that Raman's anger was right, even not accepting that gift was right, but rudeness was at extreme level, which I dint like. Whatever, here also comes trust issue. Many said, he dint doubt her. But, if this is not doubt what was that? The jealousy at last made him blue and made him to doubt her to a level that her mischief also made him think like that she was saying truth. She brought the gift for him, he couldn't think of it cos of his doubt that for Ishita Mani is everything. This is a kind of mistrust also. This time, Ishita misled him doing so.



Ishita

Sanjana track : Only trust issue of her is this. About Raman's love for Shagun, I'll come to that later. In this case, it was Shagun who through Sanjana misled Ishita. There were reasons...the sibling photo of Shagun-Mihir, Raman's hiding of Mihir's sister etc. Still, it was silly to believe her. Ishita dint doubt Raman having affair, but she did doubt that Raman dint share anything about Sanjana. A trust issue from Ishita.
See, whom he/she believed to mistrust each other doesn't count that much like mistrusting. Whatever led them to mistrust, the thing remain the same that they mistrusted each other.
Now, coming to Raman's love for Shagun. I won't say, it's a trust issue. It's a blind belief of Ishita that Raman loves Shagun still. There are reasons also..Raman's actions and words don't give that much signal that he loves Ishita. And till now, we have seen Ishita is like a stupid teenager girl when it comes to love. That's her flaw obvi. And, someone said that the way Raman's defense mechanism for expression of love is his anger, taunts and rudeness, same way Ishita's defense mechanism is her this blind belief.

Now, coming to the summary of my post. When both Raman and Ishita have and had trust issues, only blaming Ishita don't make sense. The difference is that Ishita told it on his face, he dint, he took that as fun. Oneday soon, I wish, he too tells it on her face. So that both can realize that they both have acted and also are acting silly about this. They should either have a good conversation about their past, faults, trust problems etc. or have a big fight from both sides, so that their problems, expectations and feelings come out. Almost everyone says that communication gap is the main problem in IshRa relationship. I plead to CVs, please dedicate at least two episodes for IshRa only, for their relationship and let them solve their conflicts. It's not a big thing we are asking.

I hope, I dint irritate you all. You may have different opinions. But, think carefully. Again, I am saying, trust issues don't mean what made you think so, it means that somehow, someday you mistrusted someone. And, that should be worked out obviously.

Thanks.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post Taani..
I completley agree with your post..

In the Sanjana track, it was Ishita who chose to believe a random girl over her husband. Yes, things were hidden from her but I could never relate to the incident where she believed Sanjana. Its not about the Mihir and Sanjana angle, but her believing of Raman - Sanjana affair and thinking that he hid it from her was her trust issue with no justification .! Yes, they showed jealousy but they also hinted out the trust issue..

Coming to Raman, I really don't want to get into the accident track because it was obviously a major trust issue from Raman's side.! And Adi jaap can't justify it for me. Knowing Ishita's nature he got influenced by Shagun which could have been avoided...
If we come to the Mani angle now, I could relate to his anger which certainly was justified but not his rudeness. He didn't believe her even after she admitted about just using Mani as the excuse to save her surprise. That's another trust issue.. We saw the other side of jealousy but a trust issue yet again.!

Another issue that was majorly discussed was that Ishita voiced her problem with him about him not trusting her and Raman didn't. I would blame it on the creatives and not Ishita as a character. If they could make Ishita burst out on him, they could have as well made him do that when she was accusing him of doubting her. Both have done the same mistake, then why only one get's the chance to vent it out.? Both needed to vent it out to see where they went wrong. They made her take it to a level of outburst and Raman putting it all away in casual humor..I don't see how that makes her selfish and manipulative.. That's where my problem with the creatives lies, they never show Ishra having a proper conversation about any of their issues. Its always a new episode, there is no continuity for the major scenes like the ones above. The point where they need to talk it out or vent it out, its all ignored in good humor or nok jhoks.!

Like I always said, both have their own set of flaws. It always takes 2 to a tango. Just one of them cannot be blamed for the trust issues between them. Both have to take the necessary steps for making their marriage perfect.! Neither of them is perfect.. That's what makes them perfect for each other.!

Thanks for the post.. 😊
Edited by -IshRaDivAn- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Anu, thanks a lot for understanding what I meant to.
I am irritated with Raman many times. But, recent some incidents made me irritated with Ishita too. Only reason I found in it about their relationship's this confused status is communication gap, like many also think.

It's not a big thing, if CVs want to show a conversation b/w IshRa, cos that's the most needed now, not the dramas. Dramas can come later, but not sidelining IshRa.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Forgot to add one thing...I hope I didn't offend you or anyone with my post...😃

Sorry if I did.. 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think both are equally at fault here, not just Ishita.
Here's how I would like to address it:
1. Raman's trust issue:
Cause - betrayal by his ex-wife (whom he deeply loved), betrayal by boss (apparently a friend at one stage) and being rejected as a parent (mainly by Adi).
Consequences - He finds it hard to trust women in general. All the people whom he trusts are associated with him before the betrayal phase. The fear of rejection by someone he deeply loves scars him to make a bold step towards his heart's desire.
What he needs to do - He now understands that not everyone he meets will cheat on him (i.e. Ishita is not Shagun!). He needs to build up on this and work towards making their relationship work.

2. Ishita's trust issue:
Cause - Her's mainly comes due to her social rejections time and again because of her infertility and the fact that her parents hid this important fact from her for all these years.
Consequences - She hates people lying to her, hiding the truth from her and is a very transparent person.. Does what she says!
What she needs to do - Due to her past experiences, she has found confidence in her close friend Mani, who doesn't do the things that she doesn't like (lying hiding etc..) and she feels accepted by him. Although Raman has time and again misunderstood her, she still needs to learn to confide in him and depend on him and slowly let him reveal his deepest secrets.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree with u ..
Both have trust issues..both do mistakes and both never try to talk face to face about their issues.. Raman always cover up using humour/taunts and ishita simply forget/forgive it ...but only thing they don't do it to just face the issue ..both have their flaws..
But now they r not running from their issues and ready to face them ..both want their relationship work perfectly..both started to behave like a normal couple..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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reserve ... quite busy... but will surely write fr ur post... :-)

I agree to When both Raman and Ishita have and had trust issues, only blaming Ishita don't make sense. we have always a reason to justify each act of raman...that is his past...the sorrows he faced in his past always cover up his mostly acts...
firstly.. m not getting it why are we comparing sanjana track with this...sanjana ws set by shagun...CVs used it to show slight jealous nature of ishita also... ishita ws jealous but at the same time she wanted raman to share all his secrets coz she knows she is that understanding person who can bear worst secrets of raman's past..
while mani track is surely for jealousy purpose plus making raman realize that its high time to stop rudeness towards his wife..whom he loves a lot but couldnt find out the real emotions behind his care and concern...
ishita and mani both are taking this jealousy as character certification types.. i hv 2 complaints from ishita..
> she knows raman had already faced such insecurity...from the woman he trusted the most at that time...he faced a lot... he was less heartbroken but he took that as his insult more... (i feel so) but in ishita's case..he cant see her drifting..plus mani is higher than raman in every terms (esa raman thinks...i dnt 😉) in the same way when ashok ws superior than raman.. so why dnt ishu clears his insecurity..as it can be expected from ishita only..coz she is mature and sensible in terms of getting into conversation and problems..

> she is upset.. okay..but why she is irritated with raman..coz i miss that ishita which always bears raman's taunt with a cute pout..who always finds out the intention behind every thing done by others..

i really miss old ishita..and its all cvs fault i guess...or they hv somethng in mind.. dnt knw..all tracks are in beginning...cant conclude anything..

rest all i am totally okay with😊 ... the way she cried that raman doesnt trust her..coz she nvr demanded anythng except trust...loved that scene when she accepted that she cares for raman and told him same too..

i dnt want mani to realize each n every thing to raman... i dnt want him to be a bridge in their communication gap... ish-ra heart to heart talk is the most important step needed right now.. and i wish mihika could tell ishita that raman cried for her in hospital coz she is unknown to this fact...

i knw many of my points could contradict with many of us.. but it all i feel at this level of yhm.. it could change in future by watching out how cvs turns the table😉






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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -IshRaDivAn-

Forgot to add one thing...I hope I didn't offend you or anyone with my post...😃

Sorry if I did.. 😳


No you dint.
You never did till now I have seen you. Even, sometimes I too get partial, but I haven't seen you do so😛.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divu_11

I think both are equally at fault here, not just Ishita.

Here's how I would like to address it:
1. Raman's trust issue:
Cause - betrayal by his ex-wife (whom he deeply loved), betrayal by boss (apparently a friend at one stage) and being rejected as a parent (mainly by Adi).
Consequences - He finds it hard to trust women in general. All the people whom he trusts are associated with him before the betrayal phase. The fear of rejection by someone he deeply loves scars him to make a bold step towards his heart's desire.
What he needs to do - He now understands that not everyone he meets will cheat on him (i.e. Ishita is not Shagun!). He needs to build up on this and work towards making their relationship work.

2. Ishita's trust issue:
Cause - Her's mainly comes due to her social rejections time and again because of her infertility and the fact that her parents hid this important fact from her for all these years.
Consequences - She hates people lying to her, hiding the truth from her and is a very transparent person.. Does what she says!
What she needs to do - Due to her past experiences, she has found confidence in her close friend Mani, who doesn't do the things that she doesn't like (lying hiding etc..) and she feels accepted by him. Although Raman has time and again misunderstood her, she still needs to learn to confide in him and depend on him and slowly let him reveal his deepest secrets.


Brilliantly said!
Both have trust issues because of past. Now, they should remove that. Only CVs have to take initiative for what we wanted to see for a long time.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: v_ani_patel

Agree with u ..

Both have trust issues..both do mistakes and both never try to talk face to face about their issues.. Raman always cover up using humour/taunts and ishita simply forget/forgive it ...but only thing they don't do it to just face the issue ..both have their flaws..
But now they r not running from their issues and ready to face them ..both want their relationship work perfectly..both started to behave like a normal couple..


Thanks.

Yeah, now knowing each other deeply may improve their relationship a lot...means, their past, expectations, feelings etc.

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