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Posted: 6 years ago
#81
Agree with you Kaku. PKYEK showed us the soulmate concept so much better than this.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Naveen if you get time please write a feel good happy romantic FF on PiAn with the supernatural element
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Posted: 6 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: 4me2

Naveen

So according to Gul herself the marriage is invalid? Well it may be so. As it is Ansh did not know what he was doing. I am getting hope from you as to why he is supporting Ruby against even Ved. He is actually trying to uphold Ved choice for him.


Yep in IB Rudy and Soumya got married with Pandit, mantras, sindoor and MS, but since they were under the influence of bhang Rudy himself claimed the marriage was not valid and the family agreed and later it was revealed that the pandit was fake, so despite sindoor, and MS, Rumya's marriage was considered invalid.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaku17

Naveen, I know you follow/ or used to follow (whichever is correct) IB, but never knew you followed DBO...i hv read a couple of ff/os by you in IB forum and I must say you're one terrific writer...it would be great if you can write something on PiAnsh, time permitting...

I'll not discuss about the legal aspects regarding marriage as I feel it won't be valid in the reel world. . Yes when Rikara got married they were in their senses, but the intent to marry was not their on Om's part..for him it was just a way to save Gauri from the mob and he himself didn't know that it would be construed as marriage and he made himself clear in the next shot (though I hated the way he just pushed Gauri). ..And as far as Rudy and Soumya marriage is concerned, you and I we both know the reason why it was scrapped... So am not getting in to details... So mostly I will agree with what Indu said that it depends on the creatives...it depends on their whims and they can swing it either ways...


Regarding Ansh stopping Ved from forcibly trying to get Ruby to arti, you gave an alternate view which I think maybe right.. I never thought from that angle...silly me... I'm so frustrated with whatever is happening that of late I'm having a tunnel vision...this is the beauty of discussion...a constructive discussion always helps... And moreover I never wanted to impose my views... Apologies if you felt it that way..

Off topic, have you watched "pyaar ki ye Ek kahani"...it used to air on star one and had Vivian Dsena and Sukirti Khandpal as lead.. It was also supernatural genre, with soul mate trope.. .There ml erases fl's memories of him, or we can say that he manipulated with her memory . And despite loosing her memories fl involuntarily used to come to the spot where the ml was buried... And after that when he comes out from his ice tomb, she's drawn to him despite him being rude and obnoxious. ...for me that's what being soul mate is all about at least in the supernatural genre, as in reality I don't believe in these stuff..."Abhay Raichand" is epic and I see many Abhiya fans here..

@Tia... No I haven't watched the series which you mentioned...made a note of it and will try to catch up once I have time...

Yes I agree with you that there's nothing more horrendous than mental possession... Mental/emotional trauma surpasses the physical injury /wounds/trauma. And Ansh jumping from the terrace was horrible...in fact my heart goes out to him for the fact that whatever he did he wasn't aware of it, but despite not being at fault he'll have to bear the consequences..


Kaku, I have followed both IB and DBO because I was one of those very few people who loved Shivika, Rikara and RumYa equally. I was shattered when we got RuvYa instead. So yes I do understand what you mean when you say why RumYa was scrapped. My reason for bringing Up Rudy and Soumya was to explain as to how it is up to the CV's to make a marriage real or to make it null and void, we will have to see what Gul comes up with when its time for PiAnsh to get married.

As for my writing FF/OS on IB forum, that's not me 😆 That's Navin, and I have read her works on both IB and before on RR forum, and she is a brilliant writer. I used to write years back when I was watching MJHT, have written few OS and FF on SaJan. I would love to write on PiAnsh, but its been years and honestly I'm nowhere as good as Navin, the writer you mentioned.

And please don't apologize, I wasn't talking about anyone other then myself when I said that we can express our thoughts but if other don't agree or has a different perspective, we should respect that too and just agree to disagree 😊 Also I love discussing the show here because I love to read other's POV and then try to put across my own. I feel we have always had a very healthy discussion 👏

About PKYEK, I have watched that show too ! Supernatural love stories are my favorite to watch and Abhay-Pia love story was and still is epic. In fact because of PKYEK I was so excited to watch Nazar. I was hoping to see another amazing eternal love story because PiAnsh has so much potential because their characters and powers.

Tia and Kaku I also agree with you about mind control, it can cause such serious mental trauma, and here not only Ansh but the whole family has been mind controlled. I feel for Ansh and Vedshree the most because Vedshree is such a loving and fiercely protective mother, for her to be mind controlled in marrying her son to a Dayaan which is her biggest fear since she adopted Ansh and Kajal is her nightmare coming to life. Despite knowing she was mind controlled a mother will still feel guilt and that's traumatic enough.

And what to say about Ansh, even before the mind control he kept saying no whenever the subject of marrying Ruby came up. He kept saying that he does not want to marry her because he does not love her, but he was forced into saying yes, then he was forced into hurting Pia and throwing her out when just before the mind control we could see how desperately he wanted Pia to be the Daivik and not Ruby. And to be forced into marrying Ruby and being treated as a puppet. If Ansh is showed to be married to Ruby for real in the show, then what;s stopping Ruby from also forcing Ansh to consummate the marriage? Does that mean marital rape doesn't mean anything since the couple is married? But then again since its a supernatural show, and not the real world, consent might not be required.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: slippery_chilka


Call me Tia. 😊

Ok, question. Were any of them under mind control when these marriages happened in DBO? No, right? That's your answer. Mind control makes this "marriage" null and void.

Have you seen Marvel's Jessica Jones? If you haven't, you should. t's an amazing show. Jessica has super powers and the villain Kilgrave fell for her and his power was mind control. He made her kill, he raped her and he made her believe she loved him. The whole of season one was she trying to run from him, dealing with her PTSD and blaming herself but you know what the lesson was of that season? The culprit was Kilgrave, not her. She was totally innocent. By making her kill, the blood was on Kilgraves hands and not hers. Luke Cage, the hero, her future husband's wife was killed by Jessica on Kilgrave's orders. Luke himself was mind controlled in the finale to kill Jessica. And both of them recognised that Kilgrave was the culprit not each other. As soon as she made peace with that, she stopped hating herself.

The worst part was watching Kilgrave mindcontrol people. Someone looked at him funny = gouge your eyes out. Someone touched him without permission = burn your own hand or cut it off with that dull butter knife. Someone shouted at him = Go bash your head on that wall till you die. Someone annoyed him = You will shoot your whole family ruthlessly.

Are you all aware that mind control is a mental rape? It's gives the victims PTSD which Jessica has. Because you loose one of the most precious thing. Free Will. If you watch the show you will realise how terrible it is to not have freewill. You cannot say no to the simplest thing. No, I don't want to eat dal. No, I don't want to jump. No, I don't want to cook and then there's this, an assault of the worst kind: No, I don't want to have sex with you.

We have already seen Ansh having no free will. He jumped off his building because Ruby instructed him to. Would you call this a marriage?


Brilliant post Tia !!! Couldn't have said it better.👏 Also I will definitely watch Jessica Jones. In fact my best friend was just telling me the other day to watch all the three Marvel Series. Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke cage.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Is it just me or anybody else is also feeling that show is now just so confusing. I mean no proper balance between positive and negative forces, too many loopholes, things are almost left to our interpretation and understanding.ðŸĪ”
Now, when ved and family knows that 2 daayans are there in their house, so instead of bearing their drama, why don't they go to someone like panditji or pia for help. What are they waiting for!!! I can't just convince myself as to why they are not taking any action against those daayans. Secondly, ved asked ruby to do the aarti. Fine...So, when her plan failed, she could have asked ruby to go and touch devi maa's feet and take blessings.ruby obviously wouldn't have done that successfully. 😛
Why is pia not taking guruma to hospital. Its common sense to get the injured admitted to hospital.😔
Sometimes i feel writers are still wondering where to take the show. They have no idea as to why they are writing a particular track and what it will lead to.ðŸĪŠ
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4me2

Naveen if you get time please write a feel good happy romantic FF on PiAn with the supernatural element


Puja I do have a concept in mind but I usually don't get much time to write and honestly its been ages since I have written anything. I feel if I even try it will come out as nothing but crap 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@akruti: When the show started they knew the story and was following it because it was suppose to be a finite series, but then the show got good TRP's and the show got extension, now the writers seems to be confused about how and where to take the story, that's why there seems to be so many loopholes and the story at most times feels all over the place. I am still hoping that this or next week we should get a better story and well balanced episodes.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: xaviara

@akruti: When the show started they knew the story and was following it because it was suppose to be a finite series, but then the show got good TRP's and the show got extension, now the writers seems to be confused about how and where to take the story, that's why there seems to be so many loopholes and the story at most times feels all over the place. I am still hoping that this or next week we should get a better story and well balanced episodes.

Hopefully we get something sensible in future. I know we can't expect daily soaps to be logical all the time. But the way these writers are dishing out tracks, it just gives a feel that they are expecting too much from audience. We can leave logic behind to some extent, but expecting us to completely switch off our brains,I feel is too much. This extension completely spoiled the show. ðŸĪĒ
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Let's give the CV's another two weeks and see where they take the story and the show. Maybe till now they were just laying the foundation of the story and now will focus on putting the plot together in a more creative and sensible manner?
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