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Posted: 6 years ago
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Mo and her mom had ignored and under estimated Ved. They treated her as a loser so ousted her. They did not bother much about her. Well do you feel Mo herself would have wanted the whole world to know that she is a Dayan ? Err why would she specially want this unwanted attention ? Ved acted only when Mo killed Mridul. What Mo did was action and what Ved did was reaction. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Till that time no one had any problem with Mo MIL. Suddenly Mo comes with Mridul and MIL sees her true face and the next day she is killed ?

Anh has Mo blood in him means he has a tendency for evil. Of course as a good mother Ved wont want him to walk the evil path and bring upon his own ruin. If a child has fever then the mother will give him a bitter medicine so that he recovers. No mother will do anything to increase the fever right ? From the time Ansh came Ved has given him only love care and kindness.

Once more thing. When a person having a superiority complex mocks and taunts some one who is a bit different he feels very happy. But then later when the same supposedly inferior person does something and is successful the other person cannot stand it. Mo had always felt Ved useless. But now Ved has a loving family. She has happiness and peace. Mo with her superiority complex cant stand thant. Also she is jealous of Ved. For Ved has all the things which Mo lacks. But she wont ever admit it to herself.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Just when I thought I was the only one on this forum, I can see there are other daayan fans on here as well! πŸ˜ƒ Even I am interested to see a dark story centered around Mohana and Ruby as they are the man characters of this serial. I do not believe that all daayans are evil like many say they are as daayans are in actuality, devotees/servants/handmaidens of Ma Durga and Ma Kali and hope that we see a very different and interesting story rather than some boring cliched story as what was shown in the serial, Anamika which was broadcast on Sony TV. And yes, Ruby is one drop dead gorgeous daayan! ❀️ She is a hottie daayan! ☺️
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Posted: 6 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: 4me2

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Mo and her mom had ignored and under estimated Ved. They treated her as a loser so ousted her. They did not bother much about her. Well do you feel Mo herself would have wanted the whole world to know that she is a Dayan ? Err why would she specially want this unwanted attention ? Ved acted only when Mo killed Mridul. What Mo did was action and what Ved did was reaction. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Till that time no one had any problem with Mo MIL. Suddenly Mo comes with Mridul and MIL sees her true face and the next day she is killed ?

Anh has Mo blood in him means he has a tendency for evil. Of course as a good mother Ved wont want him to walk the evil path and bring upon his own ruin. If a child has fever then the mother will give him a bitter medicine so that he recovers. No mother will do anything to increase the fever right ? From the time Ansh came Ved has given him only love care and kindness.

Once more thing. When a person having a superiority complex mocks and taunts some one who is a bit different he feels very happy. But then later when the same supposedly inferior person does something and is successful the other person cannot stand it. Mo had always felt Ved useless. But now Ved has a loving family. She has happiness and peace. Mo with her superiority complex cant stand thant. Also she is jealous of Ved. For Ved has all the things which Mo lacks. But she wont ever admit it to herself.


Does ved have any proof that Mohona is only the daayan that killed Mridul? Exactly Mohona wouldn't want anyone in the world to know she is a daayan and killing Mridul would be the most foolish thing taking this into consideration. Now you say that they underestimated Ved hence they kicked her out, what if Ved actually has her daayan abilities but just that she didn't want to reveal them? What if she only killed Mridul out of jealousy that Mo is doing better than her in terms that she was able to make the house prosperous, Bear children and what not and framed Mohona to avenge the humiliation she faced earlier?
Second question, if Mohona was sealed in a coffin then can anyone explain the mystery behind Pia's mom going missing? Are you really sure that Ved given that she is also a daayan did not abduct or imprison pia's mom anywhere.. you know they have a saying that the demons who hide themselves are more dangerous than the ones who declare their presence.

Sorry to say but Ved does not get to choose the path someone else is supposed to walk on. Second she is not his mother. Can you or anyone really prove that Mohona was really a threat to her own children? I mean openly said that daayan would even go around killing her own children, if this were true then neither her or Mohona would have been alive. Second she was married before Mohona then why did she not have any kids of her own? Did she really not have children so she does not discriminate between her own children and Mohona's kid or was it because she was sterile? If Mohona was going to kill her own children why would she bother to bring them to her in laws home? Also if Mohona had to kill Mridul she could have done it when the lived separately as well that way no one would have figured that she were behind it, but isn't it fishy that Mridul only started falling ill when he went back home with his family?

Mohona was jealous of Ved? Ved has a loving family? She has a family for sure no denying that but so did Mohona have a happy family of her own. She had kids of her own, her husband was doing well professional ly so basically she had a lot more than Ved, can you really say that Ved wasn't the jealous one here? I can feel why Mohona hates Ved, if anyone had snatched my kids from me regardless of what my condition is I would resent and hate them to the core. Also I can understand why Mohona is hellbent on taking Ansh back but I don't get Vedashree's fear here, she behaves as if she is a big devotee of God then how is it that she doesn't trust the same God enough and constantly live in fear when everyone is so cool or don't really bother much about it? Why is she only worried for Ansh and not kajal? Don't tell me because the pandit ji told her that his kundli is this and that so she should only worry about Ansh. I have a feeling that Ved is holding on to Ansh for the same reason Mo is hellbent on taking him back and it's definitely not because she loves him. Also how Mohona would have raised her kids, or the kind of values she would have instilled in them, whether they turn out good or evil is none of Vedashree's business. I can never feel for or relate to anyone that seperates a mother from her children that even for reasons that have not been proved.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#44
There is very simple and logical explanation why Ved is not a Dayan. She does Bappa arti and pooja. The same Arti Mo ran away from like a coward. Those who mean evil and are evil can't stand God. Else you tell me why she ran away? She could have stayed and met Ansh then and there itself. So this proves Ved has no dayan tendencies. The normal things like Ganga Jal etc don't affect Ved. Same way refutes the chance of Ved kidnapping Divya. Also we saw Divya herself first got seperated from Nishant with Pia and then she left Pia to go somewhere. So she was not clearly kidnapped.
Dayan can kill their own children. But if the child is of some use to her she wont. But as their mom kept Ved alive I will take your word for the time being. A good mother wont ever USE a son for anything especially for her own purposes. We don't know how long she was married when Mridul came there with Mo. So may be we can assume that they were married recently. Or may be they were planning for a child. Then Mridul came. He began getting sick. Then he died. Then Mo was exposed etc etc. She took in Ansh Kajal as her own children. I feel she did not have kids not to differentiate between the two. If you have seen she loves Rishi Neha equally as Ansh Kajal.

Mohona had trapped Mridul in the DC. He was basically a victim. Sort of works like a love potion. He was in her control. But Ved had a real loving full family. With dewar bhabhi etc. Who knows may be Mo too wanted a family like that. But it was impossible for her to get so without using magic.

I will stand by that the values Ansh has now or even for that matter Kajal are much better than what Mohona would have taught them.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4me2

There is very simple and logical explanation why Ved is not a Dayan. She does Bappa arti and pooja. The same Arti Mo ran away from like a coward. Those who mean evil and are evil can't stand God. Else you tell me why she ran away? She could have stayed and met Ansh then and there itself. So this proves Ved has no dayan tendencies. The normal things like Ganga Jal etc don't affect Ved. Same way refutes the chance of Ved kidnapping Divya. Also we saw Divya herself first got seperated from Nishant with Pia and then she left Pia to go somewhere. So she was not clearly kidnapped.

Dayan can kill their own children. But if the child is of some use to her she wont. But as their mom kept Ved alive I will take your word for the time being. A good mother wont ever USE a son for anything especially for her own purposes. We don't know how long she was married when Mridul came there with Mo. So may be we can assume that they were married recently. Or may be they were planning for a child. Then Mridul came. He began getting sick. Then he died. Then Mo was exposed etc etc. She took in Ansh Kajal as her own children. I feel she did not have kids not to differentiate between the two. If you have seen she loves Rishi Neha equally as Ansh Kajal.

Mohona had trapped Mridul in the DC. He was basically a victim. Sort of works like a love potion. He was in her control. But Ved had a real loving full family. With dewar bhabhi etc. Who knows may be Mo too wanted a family like that. But it was impossible for her to get so without using magic.

I will stand by that the values Ansh has now or even for that matter Kajal are much better than what Mohona would have taught them.

@bold She was married before Mo right so she could have had children before that so why didnt she, was anything holding her back before Mo entered the household? Is it that she did not want to or is it because she couldn't? When Mohona entered the household her kids were obviously around say maybe around 7 or 8 years, maybe ansh 7 and kajal 5, so obviously the marriage couldn't have been recent unless Mridul and mohona decided to have kids first and then get married.
People run away from God for many reasons. Some run away because they dont wanna have anything to do with God, some people run away because they have done stuff that has put them against God and are obviously unable to face them. About Mo running away from the Aarti, why are aarti's and pooja or even prayers offered? For protection, prosperity, growth right? And Mo here is obviously back for revenge and to hurt the people betrayed her and locked her away so obviously the Aarti, pooja and prayers will work against her. That way even Demons are known to have offered prayers and worshipped Gods and have even obtained the benefits of doing so. Her mind and soul at the moment is filled with vengeance and hatred, would God really welcome someone with all that as their agenda? Obviously no. Similarly Ansh whose Daayan side is awakening should have also been repelled by the Poojas and aartis. Him being a half daayan can't be excuse that the pooja's are not affecting him, it's because at them moment he has the heart of pure soul. About Vedashree she may truly and genuinely be a devotee of the Goddess and get engaged in all the pooja's however her fear of Mohona's return is also a hint of guilt that she has within her because if she had done nothing wrong then she would have nothing to worry about because God in the end takes care of everything. But to see that the opposite of whatever she planned happening and Mo breaking free and Ansh getting married to Ruby is a way of God telling hr that she was indeed wrong in what she had done? Vedashree may not be turned away from doing Pooja's but definitely she is beginning to see things go against her now isn't she? In other words God has rejected her prayers and Pooja.

I used to watch a show called Ek Deewaana Tha on Sony, earlier they showed the same stuff with the ghost who was ultimately revealed to be main hero and the actual victim. He too in the beginning used to avoid holy places and apparently seemed to run away from the holy mantras and poojas that would take place. But when his lover sincerely prayed to the Goddess to unite her with her true lover those prayers started working in his favour, in fact he himself started chanting those mantras as it was showed later. The reason why he could not stand or be near the holy sites or Pooja's was probably because he harbored some negative emotions within himself or because he was going against nature by not moving on to the next world or whatever it could have been. Who knows what if turns out to be the same here? Even in naagin the kaali ma rings used to protect the culprits from the naagin's vengeance or the bael leaves of lord Shiva were used to repel them to regardless of whether they are good or evil, but then in the end God only helped them on many occasions to overcome these now didn't he?
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Posted: 6 years ago
#46
Before I reply your post I will like to tell something. I really appreciate that we are having a good civil discussion without any name calling. That is why I replied to you in the first place. I really can see that you are so polite. We may not agree on this issue but I am happy that we are being respectful to each other and have not got personal. Thank you
Now coming to your post

Sorry about the marriage part they have not shown much so I can't really talk on this further. Well let us talk on the things they have shown till now. In my post I meant after Ansh Kajal came I think she chose not to have kids to not let them feel left out.

That is exactly what I am trying to tell. Right now she is pure evil. So she is scared. She knows her powers will reduce in front of God. So she ran away. She had told Ved that no one can stop her. But seeing Bappa she got scared. God never sides with the evil.

The demons who used to worship Shiva and got boons they too were killed by Gods only. Some by Vishnu some by Ganesh some by Karthikeya some by Ambe Ma etc. So even if an evil person gets boons if that person uses it for evil deed that person will be punished and no one can help that person.

For Ansh I will say Pia locket is protecting him as till just before the minute it fell on his neck Ruby was controlling him. But the moment it fell on him he got out of the control. Also he has Ved sanskaar and values in him. Mo could not have given them at all.

We dont know enough about if it is Ved guilt or not. She fears Mo as Mo is evil and she herself has seen to what extent Mo can go to fulfill her own purpose ex Mridul. Well what Ved had feared happened. Mo got free and Ansh married Ruby. But see the other side too. Bappa came to their home. The locket fell on Ansh though Ved does not know it. Ansh carried the idol home and the sthapana was done. Arti pooja everything was done as is done every year. Mo choked Ru. That part was totally unexpected to Ved. So again Bappa helped her. He answered her prayers. At times God delays to give us the result of our prayers as he definitely has some better plan for us. But of course that does not mean his plan was RuAn marriage. But as per the promo we saw Ansh will be out of the DC. Once he comes out of the water Bappa will bless him. May be Ru also will be gone soon. So yes God is answering Ved prayers though a bit delayed and in a different way.

I have heard of Ek Deewana Tha from my friends. It is a good show ? Available on YT ? Does it have a happy end ? I can watch it then.

Sorry for the long rant.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4me2

Before I reply your post I will like to tell something. I really appreciate that we are having a good civil discussion without any name calling. That is why I replied to you in the first place. I really can see that you are so polite. We may not agree on this issue but I am happy that we are being respectful to each other and have not got personal. Thank you

Now coming to your post

Sorry about the marriage part they have not shown much so I can't really talk on this further. Well let us talk on the things they have shown till now. In my post I meant after Ansh Kajal came I think she chose not to have kids to not let them feel left out.

That is exactly what I am trying to tell. Right now she is pure evil. So she is scared. She knows her powers will reduce in front of God. So she ran away. She had told Ved that no one can stop her. But seeing Bappa she got scared. God never sides with the evil.

The demons who used to worship Shiva and got boons they too were killed by Gods only. Some by Vishnu some by Ganesh some by Karthikeya some by Ambe Ma etc. So even if an evil person gets boons if that person uses it for evil deed that person will be punished and no one can help that person.

For Ansh I will say Pia locket is protecting him as till just before the minute it fell on his neck Ruby was controlling him. But the moment it fell on him he got out of the control. Also he has Ved sanskaar and values in him. Mo could not have given them at all.

We dont know enough about if it is Ved guilt or not. She fears Mo as Mo is evil and she herself has seen to what extent Mo can go to fulfill her own purpose ex Mridul. Well what Ved had feared happened. Mo got free and Ansh married Ruby. But see the other side too. Bappa came to their home. The locket fell on Ansh though Ved does not know it. Ansh carried the idol home and the sthapana was done. Arti pooja everything was done as is done every year. Mo choked Ru. That part was totally unexpected to Ved. So again Bappa helped her. He answered her prayers. At times God delays to give us the result of our prayers as he definitely has some better plan for us. But of course that does not mean his plan was RuAn marriage. But as per the promo we saw Ansh will be out of the DC. Once he comes out of the water Bappa will bless him. May be Ru also will be gone soon. So yes God is answering Ved prayers though a bit delayed and in a different way.

I have heard of Ek Deewana Tha from my friends. It is a good show ? Available on YT ? Does it have a happy end ? I can watch it then.

Sorry for the long rant.

Yes Ek Deewaana Tha is a pretty good show and it does have a happy ending. The beginning of the show is very similar to that of Nazar and yes it is available on YT.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you. Arrey please answer the rest of the post too πŸ˜†. I am liking the discussion
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4me2

Thank you. Arrey please answer the rest of the post too πŸ˜†. I am liking the discussion

Where do i start from? ok coming to demons who used to worship Shiva and later getting killed by the Gods themself, lets not forget all this happened only when they misused their boons. That way even Surya dev wa temporarily struck or killed by Shiva for he had given a boon to some random demons only to end up getting cursed by Surya dev's father that he too would end up losing his own son in a similar manner and it did happen. So the point here is Gods are not all virtuous and demons are not all evil. In fact the Ravana who is remembered to be one of the most vicious demons once used to be a devotee of shiva and even composed the shiva tandava stotra hymn for him which is sung even today regardless of who composed it. So yes as long as the devotion is true even demons can please God otherwise they anyways have little to no place in his presence.

About Divya leaving Pia, why would a mother abandon her daughter like that for no reason, Maybe yes Divya really had some urgent work and had to leave for the same reason, but what could be the reason for her to not return back and look after her own child?

Ved could also fear Mo because she may have actually wronged Mo and that she could end up losing everything the minute the fact about her daayan heritage is also revealed. Frankly speaking why exactly didnt Mo expose this fact about Ved earlier? I mean she could have right in fact she still can. Mo may be evil but i dont think she is evil to the extent of hurting her own family otherwise Ved would have been the first person to lose her head not Mridul.

Yes God delays our prayers but i dont think he would delay it to an extent that he let maximum damage or a disaster occur. The damage could be a result of one's own actions. Ansh may not have gotten married to Ruby if it weren't for helping Mo escape, because she was desperate she did whatever she could to break free and this is what resulted in the RuAnsh marriage. If Mo was around Ansh could have been strong enough from the very beginning to be able to resist Mo' s DC and may even go against her for Pia.

I would have answered the rest of the post to however its getting late and i need to sleep so good night
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Of course Gods too have flaws Indra is may be the God with most flaws. He is always insecure about his throne. He does many wrong things and later has to pay the price. Ravan was a great devotee but lust and ambition got the better of him. Kans died for his arrogance and vanity. Though Kans was not any devotee. Of course as long as even demons have a pure heart all will be good for them.
My personal view is Divya wanted Pia ti be strong and left for Pia safety. May be she felt if she goes away from her Pia will be sage from Mo. Mo wont know their blood relation. Etc.
Mo could have exposed Ved but then she would have to expose herself as a dayan too. She would not have wanted that attention. She wanted to keep it a secret.
I think AnRu marriage was planned after the show got extension. The CVs did it so hastily that it lost the plot there to some extent. Mo did what she had to do. But now Bappa and may be later Ambe Ma will give her the results of her deeds. Pia locket saved Ansh for now. Later Bappa will save him.

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