A few things about Draupadi, How true are they? - Page 2

I think you got your answers, but still my 2 cents 😆

1) No. This "Andha ka putra Andha" thing is not there in the original story. I don't know if it's mentioned in any of the later versions, but it was not there originally. It was creative input by BR Chopra's Mahabharat & others followed 😆 Small mercy that SP Mahabharat didn't follow completely. They showed a Maid saying that & Draupadi just trying hard not to smile. But still Duryodhan misunderstood it as Draupadi's comment so not much of a change.

2) There's a controversy regarding it. First of all Karn was not invited to participate in the swayamvar. He came as Duryodhan's sidekick. So most probably he didn't have the right to participate at all.

But I have read in discussion forums / blogs that in older versions, it is stated that Karna was not even successful in the task. He could lift the bow alright but he couldn't string it. That Dhanush's string was made from metal & he couldn't stretch it enough to tie the other end. Arjun was the only one who could lift it, string it & then complete the task. If that is the case there's no question of Draupadi rejecting him on the basis of cast. He was unsuccessful anyway. This Draupadi rejecting Karn on the basis of cast is added later to sympathise Karn.

https://mythgyaan.com/draupadi-rejects-karna/

Read this if you are interested in detailed answer 😆

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

She wished for a husband with 5 important qualities which the 5 Pandavas had.

Yudhishthir- Dharma and Righteousness

Bheem- Strength

Arjuna - Patience/Archery Skills/Best Warrior

Nakul- Beauty

Sahadev- Knowledge

So Vyasa said about this to the Pandavas and told them to go to the Swayamvar. Then Arjun won the contest. Before this, Arjun and Draupadi did not know each other.

Again, Star Plus MB and its completely false creation of Arjun Draupadi romance is the reason for this belief among people. There is nothing like this in real epic.

True.

But isn't there a popular belief that King Drupad wanted a daughter who would marry Arjun after Arjun defeated & imprisoned him? He wanted a son who could decapitate Drona & a daughter who could marry Arjun? And this is what he wished for during the Yagya. Maybe this is what gave the idea of Arjun - Draupadi romance to SP creatives 😆😆 From their romantic pov it might have seemed that Drupad asking for a daughter to marry off to Arjun is equivalent to Draupadi feeling romantic to Arjun & waiting for him with her heart in her sleeves 😆😆 I am not that miffed with them cause compared to few others things they have shown in the name of "creative liberty" it is not that preposterous. At least they kept the romance one sided, i.e, from Darupadi's side. Arjun did not look much interested.

Originally posted by: .Lonewalker.

True.

But isn't there a popular belief that King Drupad wanted a daughter who would marry Arjun after Arjun defeated & imprisoned him? He wanted a son who could decapitate Drona & a daughter who could marry Arjun? And this is what he wished for during the Yagya. Maybe this is what gave the idea of Arjun - Draupadi romance to SP creatives 😆😆 From their romantic pov it might have seemed that Drupad asking for a daughter to marry off to Arjun is equivalent to Draupadi feeling romantic to Arjun & waiting for him with her heart in her sleeves 😆😆 I am not that miffed with them cause compared to few others things they have shown in the name of "creative liberty" it is not that preposterous. At least they kept the romance one sided, i.e, from Darupadi's side. Arjun did not look much interested.

Arjun was not interested ??? Yeah right that s why he was day dreaming about her. And that the reason he asked drapaudi for forgiveness before marrying subdhara.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Arjun was not interested ??? Yeah right that s why he was day dreaming about her. And that the reason he asked drapaudi for forgiveness before marrying subdhara.

When was he daydreaming about her? 😆 He just saw her at the temple & found her attractive / beautiful / alluring....whatever. Men felt like that when they saw Draupadi, all the 5 Pandavas did because she is supposed to be India's most beautiful woman. But if he was so interested, he wouldn't have to be so much arm twisted to participate. They showed he didn't want to go to the swayamvar or participate in case Shikhandini or Duryodhan gang recognise them. That's not much of a romantic interest to my understanding 😆

As for asking for forgiveness while marrying Subhadra, it was after marrying Draupadi. I was talking about this pre-marriage romance which SP tried to show. After the marriage, all the 5 pandavas loved Draupadi in their own way. And Arjun, went to exile because of the Gandiv fiasco & after 12 years when he is returning, he is bringing a new bride with him. This perhaps made him feel guilty. But he definitely had enough interest in marrying Subhadra to agree to be kidnapped by her (SP version) 😆 I don't see him pinning for Draupadi that much.

That was my interpretation.

Originally posted by: .Lonewalker.

True.

But isn't there a popular belief that King Drupad wanted a daughter who would marry Arjun after Arjun defeated & imprisoned him? He wanted a son who could decapitate Drona & a daughter who could marry Arjun? And this is what he wished for during the Yagya. Maybe this is what gave the idea of Arjun - Draupadi romance to SP creatives 😆😆 From their romantic pov it might have seemed that Drupad asking for a daughter to marry off to Arjun is equivalent to Draupadi feeling romantic to Arjun & waiting for him with her heart in her sleeves 😆😆 I am not that miffed with them cause compared to few others things they have shown in the name of "creative liberty" it is not that preposterous. At least they kept the romance one sided, i.e, from Darupadi's side. Arjun did not look much interested.

No re. Arjun was. The utter bullshit they showed that Arjun was thinking about Draupadi while marrying Subhadra. XD It was dumb. In reality, Arjun was very much interested in Subhadra and infact the day dreaming took place there.

They showed Arjun Draupadi having met before Swayamvar, another nonsense. I have a deep hatred for the writers because of spreading this nonsense.

About the Drupad thing, well I am not aware of such a thing in the widely accepted KMG or (Bibek Debroy) version. I maybe wrong again. Drupad was angry due to Drona's students defeating him. But I am not sure he was particularly hell bent on Arjun marrying her.

Originally posted by: .Lonewalker.

I think you got your answers, but still my 2 cents 😆

1) No. This "Andha ka putra Andha" thing is not there in the original story. I don't know if it's mentioned in any of the later versions, but it was not there originally. It was creative input by BR Chopra's Mahabharat & others followed 😆 Small mercy that SP Mahabharat didn't follow completely. They showed a Maid saying that & Draupadi just trying hard not to smile. But still Duryodhan misunderstood it as Draupadi's comment so not much of a change.

2) There's a controversy regarding it. First of all Karn was not invited to participate in the swayamvar. He came as Duryodhan's sidekick. So most probably he didn't have the right to participate at all.

But I have read in discussion forums / blogs that in older versions, it is stated that Karna was not even successful in the task. He could lift the bow alright but he couldn't string it. That Dhanush's string was made from metal & he couldn't stretch it enough to tie the other end. Arjun was the only one who could lift it, string it & then complete the task. If that is the case there's no question of Draupadi rejecting him on the basis of cast. He was unsuccessful anyway. This Draupadi rejecting Karn on the basis of cast is added later to sympathise Karn.

https://mythgyaan.com/draupadi-rejects-karna/

Read this if you are interested in detailed answer 😆

Many versions say he did not succeed, but this is controversial but one thing is for sure- he was not invited, but he was part of Duryodhana's baraati.

Originally posted by: .Lonewalker.

When was he daydreaming about her? 😆 He just saw her at the temple & found her attractive / beautiful / alluring....whatever. Men felt like that when they saw Draupadi, all the 5 Pandavas did because she is supposed to be India's most beautiful woman. But if he was so interested, he wouldn't have to be so much arm twisted to participate. They showed he didn't want to go to the swayamvar or participate in case Shikhandini or Duryodhan gang recognise them. That's not much of a romantic interest to my understanding 😆

As for asking for forgiveness while marrying Subhadra, it was after marrying Draupadi. I was talking about this pre-marriage romance which SP tried to show. After the marriage, all the 5 pandavas loved Draupadi in their own way. And Arjun, went to exile because of the Gandiv fiasco & after 12 years when he is returning, he is bringing a new bride with him. This perhaps made him feel guilty. But he definitely had enough interest in marrying Subhadra to agree to be kidnapped by her (SP version) 😆 I don't see him pinning for Draupadi that much.

That was my interpretation.

I was talking about the same lol

As we are talking about star bharat let s not mix it with Mahabharata. In star bharat only arjun saw/met drapaudi before the marriage and when nakul was talking about Swamyvaar and beautiful princess of panchal arjun was shown day dreaming/thinking about her

As per the epic pandavas met drapaudi only at the Swamyvaar and were attracted to her .

About subdhara star bharat showed subhdra being in love/pinning for arjun while according to Mahabharata it was arjun who was attracted to subdhara subhdra at best was indifferent arjun abducted her without her consent

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

She wished for a husband with 5 important qualities which the 5 Pandavas had.

Yudhishthir- Dharma and Righteousness

Bheem- Strength

Arjuna - Patience/Archery Skills/Best Warrior

Nakul- Beauty

Sahadev- Knowledge

So Vyasa said about this to the Pandavas and told them to go to the Swayamvar. Then Arjun won the contest. Before this, Arjun and Draupadi did not know each other.

Again, Star Plus MB and its completely false creation of Arjun Draupadi romance is the reason for this belief among people. There is nothing like this in real epic.

She asked for one man with 5 qualities and she was punished for her wish by making her marry 5 men and sl*t shaming her 🙄 Same God granted every wish of Ravana and other people who caused so much trouble.

I have not seen SB Mahabharata, I have seen the old one when I was in school

Originally posted by: .Lonewalker.

I think you got your answers, but still my 2 cents 😆

1) No. This "Andha ka putra Andha" thing is not there in the original story. I don't know if it's mentioned in any of the later versions, but it was not there originally. It was creative input by BR Chopra's Mahabharat & others followed 😆 Small mercy that SP Mahabharat didn't follow completely. They showed a Maid saying that & Draupadi just trying hard not to smile. But still Duryodhan misunderstood it as Draupadi's comment so not much of a change.

2) There's a controversy regarding it. First of all Karn was not invited to participate in the swayamvar. He came as Duryodhan's sidekick. So most probably he didn't have the right to participate at all.

But I have read in discussion forums / blogs that in older versions, it is stated that Karna was not even successful in the task. He could lift the bow alright but he couldn't string it. That Dhanush's string was made from metal & he couldn't stretch it enough to tie the other end. Arjun was the only one who could lift it, string it & then complete the task. If that is the case there's no question of Draupadi rejecting him on the basis of cast. He was unsuccessful anyway. This Draupadi rejecting Karn on the basis of cast is added later to sympathise Karn.

https://mythgyaan.com/draupadi-rejects-karna/

Read this if you are interested in detailed answer 😆

So first one is false

I have a question, even Pandavas were uninvited, isn't it? They went in disguise, so how was Arjun able to participate?

I don't think the concept of love was prevalent back in those days, the concept of marriage was far from it is now. Arjun had many wives but "he loved 'Subhadra'/Draupadi the most" is trying to validate these two women by showing the protagonist loved them.

Draupadi was managing whole Kingdom, she was a queen, she had alot of work to do, I don't really think she was sulking for Arjun's advances, She had 5 husbands, the woman did not lack attention 🤣🙃 Her husbands had to wait for their turn to be with her and none of them skipped it. Did Arjuna go 'Yudhishtira Da, be with Draupadi for next one year, I love Subhadra?"

Marriage was an alliance and duty not a Choice, they weren't in Monogamous relationships.

Subhadra was Krushna's sister, she had a purpose, the purpose was to give an heir, that's why she lived with Arjun till Abhimanyu's birth then raised him where Krushna could teach him everything, She asked Arjun for crucial information which helped them win the war, the woman had more work to do than pine for her husband.

Arjun was a warrior, He spent most of his time in exile then he went to look for weapons, back then men chose women who were beautiful, anything which couldn't awaken their desire was their, The concept of today's love and shipper's desire look for a monogamous love, if not monogamous then claim that our hero didn't want his other wives though he had kids with all of his wives 🤣